Important information about Commercial Breeders

Please find below important information for any prospective IG owner regarding Commercial Dog Breeders breeding Italian Greyhounds and IG Crossed Breeds in the UK. If you are looking to buy an IG puppy, please read on…

The Italian Greyhound Rescue Charity receives many enquiries from potential Italian Greyhound puppy buyers, most of whom do not wish to buy from commercial breeders. As detailed below, commercial breeders (people who breed and sell puppies for financial gain) should have a breeding license issued by their local council. However, we know of only one online puppy sales site that requires the advertisers’ commercial licence number to be given. Therefore, prospective owners need to be alert and not simply rely on a licence number to identify commercial breeders.

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The Charity hopes the following information collated from the relevant council websites will be useful in identifying if the breeder you have contacted is a commercial breeder of Italian Greyhounds or Italian Greyhound Crossbreeds and has, or requires, a breeder’s licence.

UK Law states in the Breeding and Sale of Dogs (Welfare) Act 1999 that a local council-issued dog breeding license is required for anyone who keeps a breeding establishment (including private dwellings) which meets any of the following conditions:

  • Anyone “in the business” of breeding and selling dogs (trading) needs to be licensed regardless of the number of litters they have in a 12 month period. For example if the person is breeding and selling dogs for commercial gain and/or regularly adverting puppies/dogs for sale.
  • England and Scotland – if in a 12 month period their dogs give birth to 5 litters or more, regardless of whether they are in the business of breeding and selling dogs.
  • Wales – if in a 12 month period their dogs give birth to 3 litters or more, regardless of whether they are in the business of breeding and selling dogs.

How local authorities decide if an individual is trading or is “in the business” of breeding and selling dogs, differs from council to council. For example, some councils will require anyone who breeds over 2 litters in a 12 month period to be licensed while others may require anyone keeping more than 2 breeding bitches to be licensed. Each council’s requirements should be visible on their council website and further information can be found here.

Licensed commercial breeders are not allowed to mate a bitch if she is less than one year old and breeding is restricted to a maximum limit of 6 litters per bitch, with at least 12 months between each litter of puppies. (Please note, the IGRC recommends that a bitch is bred from no more than three times and has a minimum of two years between each litter.)

In England and Wales, there are six Licensed Commercial Breeders of IGs and IG crosses who are registered with their local council (correct as of July 2017). But, as detailed below, not all Commercial Breeders are registered with their local council.

Prospective owners must be aware that not all breeders who advertise and breed frequently are licensed with their local council. If you come across a commercial breeder whose licence details cannot be found with the local council, please contact the IGRC and they can investigate the breeder further.

Unfortunately, the online world is increasingly becoming the home of unscrupulous breeders. The IGRC recommends that prospective IG owners avoid puppies and dogs that are advertised on the internet. Instead, the Charity advises new owners to attend Kennel Club dog shows where they can meet lots of Italian Greyhounds, talk about the breed with their owners, and register their interest in a puppy with a reputable breeder.

In conclusion, be alert when carrying out your research for an IG or IG-cross puppy. If anything about a breeder or their premises unsettles you, please do not ignore your instincts. And if you have any concerns regarding a particular advert or breeding establishment, please feel free to contact the IGRC to discuss your observations.

Blog #3 Don’t be tricked or fooled by unscrupulous breeders

In the last IGRC Blog, we looked into the important steps that new owners should take when deciding to welcome a puppy into their home. Choosing the right breed for your lifestyle is the first important decision. Then, you must find the right breeder who will produce a happy, healthy puppy and who will remain in touch offering you advice throughout your dog’s lifetime.

The unscrupulous breeding of Italian Greyhounds has been fed by the increasing popularity of this beautiful breed – when there is demand, supply is being generated by some with little or no thought for the welfare of the brood bitches, stud dogs and their puppies. The recent prosecution of Susan Thomas (Francole), who has also been banned for life by The Kennel Club, is one case which demonstrates how the authorities are monitoring and punishing those whose breeding practices fail to meet welfare standards. Unfortunately, (and this happens in many breeds, not just Italian Greyhounds), unsuspecting prospective owners can be unwittingly brought in by unscrupulous breeders so, if you are thinking of introducing an IG into your home, please approach breeders with your eyes wide open. Here are some points to bear in mind:

i) Meet breeders face-to-face before committing to a puppy. It is essential that you meet IGs, their owners and breeders before you can 100% decide that an IG is the right breed for you and your home. There are lots of dog shows held throughout the year up and down the country where you can meet IG experts who will be able to answer your questions about the breed. You will also be able to see IGs in person, rather than photos online or in a book, which is an invaluable experience – were you expecting them to be as they were? To find an event near to you, please visit The Kennel Club website for a full list of upcoming shows.

ii) Online advertisements. Reputable IG breeders do not breed often. Consequently, they usually have a waiting list of prospective owners and do not need to advertise their puppies on the internet.

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It’s a dog’s life!

iii) After choosing a breeder, visit their premises and they may ask to see your home too. How IGs behave out and about differs greatly to how they rule the roost at home – some IGs can appear rather aloof when at a show but, in the comfort of their home surrounds, their character changes and their confidence blooms. By visiting a breeder, you can see how they raise their dogs. Are the premises clean? Are the dogs happy in their home environment? Does anything raise alarm bells in your head? If so, listen to them. Not only must you, as a prospective owner, ascertain whether the mother of your future puppy is relaxed at home, the breeder should also want to know more about you: your lifestyle, is your property suitable to welcome an IG, are you 100% committed to their puppy not just while they are cute but also fifteen years down the line when your IG is entering his senior years. It is two-way process – you must be happy with the breeder, and the breeder must be happy with you. A strong relationship should form between you and your puppy’s breeder as you may need to turn to them for help and advice over the years. If the breeder you meet is more interested in getting your credit card details for a deposit rather than asking you questions about the life you can offer one of their puppies, alarm bells should be ringing loud and clear.

iv) Visit your puppy at home, with his mother and his littermates. If a breeder offers you a “drop off” service, maybe at a location half way between you and them, alarm bells once again should be sounding out. There are not a large number of reputable IG breeders in the UK so it is possible that your breeder will be located some distance from your home – it may initially appear “annoying” to have to travel five hours to the breeder and then back again, but this is a very small price to pay to get a happy, healthy puppy. Please do not let convenience cloud your judgement.

v) Price of your puppy. If you search “IG puppies” on the internet, the price of a puppy will probably make you wince. On average, the price for an IG puppy from a reputable breeder is £800-£900. This is just a guide, but please do not be lured in to paying more simply because a puppy has a “Crufts champion” supposedly in its pedigree (there is no such thing as Crufts Champion) or because the puppy is “rare in colour or size (to read the Kennel Club breed standard for the Italian Greyhound, please click here – any claims from breeders selling puppies with characteristics not recognised by the KC should be avoided).

vi) Age of your puppy when you collect him. Quite simply, if a breeder is trying to get you to collect an IG puppy before they are twelve weeks old, question them. The IGRC recommends that puppies remain with their mother until this age because this stage in development is crucial.

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The rare moment that an IG is still!

vii) Your breeder should not be a stranger. As mentioned above, the breeder of your puppy should become a point of contact in your phonebook. Many breeders have become very good friends with their puppies’ owners because reputable breeders want to know how their stock is getting on throughout a dog’s life, from their first week in their new home through to their first birthday through to their veteran years. Does the breeder of your prospective puppy give you confidence that they will be at the end of a telephone when you may need them?

These seven point are advisory guidelines that should be in your mind when getting an IG puppy. If you get an uneasy feeling from a potential breeder before getting your puppy, it is usually wise to listen to your gut feeling. Choosing the right puppy from the right breeder at the right time in your life can be one of the most rewarding decisions that you and your family can make. Hastily buying a puppy over the internet from the first breeder you find listed online may prove to be an incredibly costly and painful mistake for you, your family and, most importantly, your puppy.

Profits seized from illegal dog breeding operation

An  illegal  dog  breeder  has  been  forced  to  pay  back  the  profit  she  made  from  selling litters  of  puppies   from  her  home,  after  successful  Proceeds  of  Crime  Act proceedings by  Rhondda  Cynon  Taf  Council.

Cardiff  Crown  Court  has  determined  that  Susan  Thomas,  formerly  of  Heol  y  Bryn, Rhydyfelin,  must   forfeit  the  £4,000  profit  Licensing  Officers  have  proved  she  made from  selling  puppies  when  she  had   no  legal  license  to  do  so.

She  has  also  been  ordered  to  pay  a  further  £7,500  towards  the  prosecution  costs and has  just  three   months  to  pay  back  the  total  amount. Following  her  conviction  of illegal  breeding  and  animal   welfare  offences  last  year,  she  was  banned  from breeding  dogs  for  five  years.

The  successful  result  in  court  marks  the  end  of  a  year  of  legal  action  against  Susan Thomas,  58,  by   Rhondda  Cynon  Taf  Council’s  Licensing  Officers. It  sends  a  clear message  that  the  authority  does  have  access  to  far-­‐reaching  and  robust  legislation to   deal  with  those  who  make  a  profit  from  criminal  activity.

The  case  against  Thomas,  58,  began  in  2013  when  Council  Licensing  Officers  were contacted  by  the   Italian  Greyhound  Rescue  Charity,  passing  on  the  concerns  of  a man  who  had  contacted  them  after   visiting  Thomas’  home  with  a  view  to  buying  a puppy  she  had  offered  for  sale  online.

He  was  appalled  at  the  dirty  and  smelly  conditions  in  which  the  puppies  were  kept and  also   concerned  about  the  number  of  litters  of  puppies  and  dogs  in  the house. As  soon  as  Thomas’  name  was  mentioned  by  the  charity,  officers  were  aware of  her  as  it  had  been  just  over  18  months  since  they  had  first  prosecuted  her  in relation  to  illegal  breeding  and  animal   welfare  offences.

In  2012,  she  was  convicted  at  Pontypridd  Magistrates’  Court  of  failing  to  hold  the legal,  local   authority  license  that  is  needed  by  anyone  who  produces  more  than  four litters  of  puppies  a  year,  an   offence  under  the  1973  Breeding  of  Dogs  Act.

She  was  also  convicted  of  an  offence  under  the  2006  Animal  Welfare  Act  for  failing to  allow  the  dogs   in  her  care  to  exhibit  their  natural  canine  behaviour,  as  they were kept  for  hours  at  a  time  in  small   cages  stacked  in  her  kitchen,  instead  of  being walked  and  playing  in  the  garden.

The  following  year  online  adverts  indicated  she  was  continuing  to  breed  puppies illegally,  so  officers   organised  a  search  of  her  home,  in  the  presence  of  a  vet  and police  officers.

They  entered  the  property  to  discover  26  dogs  –  Chihuahuas,  Italian  Greyhounds  – and  paperwork,   photos  and  mating  diaries  that  indicated  at  least  eight  litters  of puppies  had  been  bred  illegally  since   the  court  case.

As  a  result  of  the  search,  Thomas  was  charged  with:

  • Keeping  a  breeding  establishment  without  a  license  from  the  council  –  a  breach  of  the  1973   Breeding  of  Dogs  Act.
  • Failing  to  ensure  the  needs  of  her  dogs  were  met  –  a  breach  of  the  2006  Animal  Welfare  Act
  • Presenting  herself  as  a  “member”  of  online  selling  sites  and  not  a  “breeder”
  • AND,   engaging  in  a   misleading  commercial  practice  contrary  to  the  Consumer  Protection  from  Unfair  Trading   Regulations  Act  and  the  Fraud  Act.

She  admitted  the  offences  and  was  placed  on  a  12  month  supervision  order  and banned  from   breeding  dogs  for  five  years.

Following  the  successful  court  case,  the  Proceeds  of  Crime  investigations  then began, which  involved   months  of  work  to  match  dated  picture  of  puppies  and  adverts placed  on  a  variety  of  online  selling   sites  to  prove  the  profit  that  had  been  made and  calculate  the  profit  made  from  the  prices  they  were   sold  at  –  some  as  high  as £750  per  puppy.

The  £4,000  confiscation  order  relates  to  the  calculated  profit  she  made  during  the period  of  the   offending  and  the  costs  relate  to  the  cost  of  bringing  Proceeds  of Crime  action  against  her.

Paul  Mee,  Rhondda  Cynon  Taf  Council’s  Director  of  Public  Health  and  Protection, said:  “This  is   something  of  a  landmark  case  for  us  and  shows  the  legislation  we have  access  to  –  and  can  use   effectively  –  to  deal  with  those  who  make  a  profit from  criminal  activity.

“This  was  a  complicated  case  involving  a  lot  of  puppies  and  a  lot  of  prices  and  officers  involved  should  be  commended  for  the  professionalism  and  tenacity  they  have  shown  to  recover  the  profit  of   criminal  activity.

“Importantly,  this  case  is  not  just  about  making  money  from  crime.  Breeders  like  Susan  Thomas  have   a  legal  responsibility  to  ensure  they  are  licensed  so  the  necessary  and  regular  checks  can  be  made  on   their  breeding  operation  and  ensure  the  welfare  of  the  animals.

“We  thank  the  Italian  Rescue  Greyhound  Charity  for  their  support  in  this  case.”

[This is the official press release from Rhondda Cynon Taf Council]

To read more about this case, please click here.

Blog #2 Patience is a virtue

Getting a dog, whether a puppy or an adult, is a huge commitment but bringing a canine companion into your home can be incredibly rewarding: dogs are loyal, loving, and constantly by your side whether you have had a good or bad day. In return for their faithful companionship, dogs need their owners to carry out a care of duty from the day they collect him or her through to their twilight years. In short, an elderly dog who requires extra care should be loved by the family just as much as the adorable ten week old puppy you picked up fifteen years ago. If you feel that you can offer a lifetime of love and care to a dog, then a four-legged friend will make a wonderful addition to your household.

When the decision to get a dog is made, the research into which dog will be most suitable must begin. When considering which breed to choose, you must evaluate your home and lifestyle. Some breeds will be better suited than others. For example, the increasingly popular Siberian Husky is a beautiful dog but they require considerable exercise (and not just an hour here and then when you can fit it in) which, when not delivered, leaves these incredibly intelligent dogs looking for other ways to be entertained. Conversely, a retired ex-racing Greyhound will be incredibly happy with a couple of twenty minute walks a day and then occupy the sofa! All dogs require their due exercise, but some need it in larger doses so their owners must work this into their daily routine.

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Our faithful canine companions require complete commitment from their owners

Other considerations that must be evaluated include: small or large breed? Puppy or adult? Dog or bitch? Rescue dog? Short coated breed with minimal grooming or a coated breed requiring regular grooming? Once you have decided on the breed, the next step is to learn as much as you can about them. What are their temperaments like? Are there any known health concerns within the breed? Would a male or a female dog be more appropriate?

So, who do you to turn to for this breed specific knowledge? In the online, instantaneous world that we live in today, it is incredibly tempting to log onto the Internet, carry out a search on your chosen breed, and follow the first website you come across. While there are a host of useful websites available online, the Internet is also home to the advertising of hundreds of puppies from unscrupulous breeders so prospective owners must be incredibly cautious not to be drawn in quickly to buying a puppy.

The Internet can be a good place to start your research, but meeting breeders face to face is the best way for you to ask all the questions you may have about a breed. For example, if you were interested in Italian Greyhounds, you would probably contact the Rescue Charity along with the Italian Greyhound Club. The next point of call could be attending an event where established breeders are known to be. The IGC hosts three shows a year where you can meet lots of IGs and talk to their owners. In addition, Crufts and Discover Dogs are two major canine events where breed booths are manned by specialists who can provide further advice about the breed.

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Don’t be fooled… IGs are not always this chilled!

By attending one or more of these events, you can hopefully get to know a couple of breeders and maybe register your interest in a puppy or older dog. They will probably invite you to visit their home, to see their dogs relaxed in their domestic environment. This opportunity allows prospective owners to see the dogs’ natural behaviour – are they a very relaxed breed or overexcitable? How is the breeder looking after their dogs? Will similar adaptions need to be made to your property to make it a suitable environment for a new dog? Is the breed what you expected it to be like? Any second thoughts? If any doubts arise in your mind, this investigative stage is the best time for them to be listened to. Getting a dog and then discovering you are not compatible leads to heartache for both the dog and the family.

Similarly, when visiting a breeder, they will ask you several questions about your home and what you could offer as a prospective owner to one of their dogs. It is essential that a good relationship establishes between a breeder and the owners of their dogs: the breeder is entrusting the new owner with one of their precious puppies, and likewise the owner needs to know that the breeder is a dependable source of advice and information should, at any stage in their dog’s life, they require assistance. Breeders should not cut off new owners as soon as they receive the money for their puppy.

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The first few months of a puppy’s life are crucial

So, you’ve decided that Italian Greyhounds are the right breed for you, and you want a puppy – what next? You will need to be patient. Established IG breeders in the UK do not breed frequently so you will need to wait for the right litter to be produced. Once born, you may like to visit the puppies when they are about six weeks old so that you can see your puppy with his mother and litter mates. Then, the collection date can be arranged. Puppies should not leave their dam until they are at least eight weeks old – this is a legal requirement. Most IG breeders prefer to wait until their puppies are slightly older: for IGs it is recommended that puppies remain with their dam until twelve weeks old allowing them to fully interact with their mother which can make training them later on easier. Therefore, if a breeder offers you to take a puppy before he or she is eight weeks old, you should be alarmed. Similarly, if the breeder is money focused, demanding deposits and pre-payments, this should also be a source for concern. And if a breeder refuses to let you visit their home, preferring to meet at a third party location, alarm bells should be ringing loud and clear.

As a new owner, you should see your puppy with their mother and litter mates, you should never feel pressurised to purchase, and you should not ignore any negative gut feelings you may have. Choosing the right puppy or dog, from the right breeder, at the right time, is central to both your dog’s happiness and your own.

Blog #1 Whisper’s tale: an IG, some sheep & the authorities!

Our first blog is told by a 10 month old IG who joined the Charity last year and who is now happily settled in their new home. Here is Whisper’s tale of running rings around the authorities!

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Here is Whisper, pictured in the centre with the green collar… butter wouldn’t melt!

“Hello everyone! My name is Whisper and I am an IG puppy who was rescued through the IG Rescue Charity in 2015. I am now very happy with my new owners and my four-legged companions. The story I am going to tell is that from an innocent walk that we went on recently which involves me, my four friends, sheep, and the police.

“My owners and I, joined by my furry friends, all went out for a walk on the moors where we all love to run and chase one another, while also investigating lots of interesting scents on the ground. Because livestock animals graze local to our walks, my owners are very proactive in training us how to behave properly around other animals. On this walk, we were all learning how to behave around sheep… My owners were clear with their instructions: dogs must not chase nor frighten sheep. While they were teaching this to us, my eye was caught by a white object some distance away. It had legs and was moving and it had friends, as my eyes soon spotted lots of white things. Right, time to investigate!

“Italian Greyhounds are rather inquisitive by nature. Whether it’s tasting the contents within your favourite mug or finding out more about white obscure objects, we want to know what’s going on! So I started off running towards the white objects that had captured my attention. My owners were calling my name I think, but my canine companions have taught me something called ‘selective hearing’ and I decided to try this out. As I got nearer to the white objects, they started to run and scatter in all directions. I tried to introduce myself to them all but none of them would listen to me – so rude.

“I soon gave up trying to make friends with the white objects and as my owners were still calling my name, I decided to return to them. I ran back, tail wagging and panting, but it soon became clear that they were rather unimpressed with me! One of them said, ‘Whisper, what were we just explaining to you? Do not chase sheep!’ The penny dropped. Those white objects were sheep!! Oooops.

“I quickly realised that I had been naughty and I’ve made a note (… somewhere…) and have vowed not to do it again. All forgiven you’d think? No, the drama was only just beginning…

“Soon after I had returned to my owners, some flashing blue lights could be seen approaching. Like my fellow four-legged friends, we were rather perplexed why the police had joined us on our walk. I am not sure what or who they were expecting, but when the police (including an armed policeman and a dog catcher) came to talk to my owners, they seemed somewhat surprised to be presented with five small dogs. Obviously the description given by the person who reported me for chasing the white things did not quite tally with the real situation. It soon became clear to the police that no harm had been caused to the livestock and they chatted and laughed with my owners while their report and assessment was completed.

“When the police left and we headed home, I was ready for a large nap! The excitement of the afternoon had been quite exhausting. I had learnt a big lesson – one must never, ever chase white things. I finished the day with a new title too – because my actions had been reported to the police and a report completed, I was given a police record. I’ve not heard of any of contemporaries getting a police record … Quite an achievement wouldn’t you say?”

Thank you Whisper for sharing one of your adventures with your new family. Mischievous but still loveable!